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4.06.2008

Perfect Strangers


Don't worry. I'm not talking about that awesome show from the late '80s to early'90s (and by awesome I mean LAME). I remember watching that show quite a bit when I was young. What I cannot remember is if those viewings were voluntary or just out of boredom.

No matter...


I was at the laundry mat today writing lesson plans while waiting for clothes to dry. It was particularly slow, for a Sunday, as there was only one other person around. Without any introduction or greeting, this elderly gentleman approached me and asked the following question: "If a man is starving, and he has a family to feed, and he robs a bank in order to feed his family, do you think it's cruel to put him in jail?" Not exactly your typical conversation-starter, eh? I was a little skeptical about where this conversation was going or WHY this conversation was started, but it ended up intriguing me. I won't go through all the details, but some of the points this man, Ken, hit on were illegal immigration, the North American Union (which I admit, I know little about), the education system, and religion. Sounds pretty heavy for laundry conversation. Normally, I get annoyed with people when they bring up such issues because most of the time, I find their arguments lacking what is most important: critically thought-out logical arguments. Ken didn't seem to be lacking in this regard, so I continued to listen.

He explained that he considers himself a revolutionary/idealist/activist, and that in order for our country to truly change, there has to be a sincere, action-based effort from the American people. Scenes from the film V for Vendetta (one of my favorite movies) flashed through my head (minus all the killing and masks). Ken reminisced about the time of the Vietnam War and the protests that followed...how dedicated people were to their causes. For years, I have felt that when/if it really comes down to it, the American people don't have it in themselves to truly protest, actively. So, I can agree with him on that point. I can't say that I agreed with him whole-heartedly on everything. And I never felt like he was asking me to agree.

As I'm typing, I'm realizing that this could be a very lengthy post, so let me try to wrap this up. Halfway through our conversation, he handed me a "business card" (I'm not sure what to call it...a "propaganda card"?) with a web address and an image of what he calls "Mexican Sam". I'll let you use your imagination. After mentioning I was in the fine arts industry, he went to his car and retrieved some political cartoons he drafted. Our discussion about religion is maybe a save for another post.

Although our initial interaction was abrupt, what I liked about Ken was that he did not ask me a series of personal questions; if I offered information, like my first name or my occupation, great, but there was no prying whatsoever. He would also periodically ask me if I was willing to still converse with him; he kept saying, "It's just good to talk these things through with other people---young people, at that".

One could say that this person had a major agenda in talking with me. But wouldn't that be the case for any and all activists? Is it really too much to ask for people to "do" instead of "think" about what they believe? It seems so foreign nowadays: to literally stand up for what is "right".

I have yet to thoroughly check out his website. I wanted to get all this down before I lost some of the thoughts.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

I too love V for Vendetta, and I'm also in favor of a revolution.

I'm curious about the website. If you don't post it here, can you send it to me on Facebook?

c.a.b. said...

It seems pretty radical. He even has a recording of himself that begins once the site is loaded.

Anyways, here it is...

http://www.stnau.com/

Anonymous said...

Okay, I probably should have turned the sound off. "They are America? What are we? Mashed Potatoes?"

It does seem a bit radical. I'm a little touchy when it comes to illegal immigration, only because I think the discussion of it tends to make people stereotype--all Hispanic people must be illegal! I'm also adamant about thinking that the US should just take over Mexico. Why waste time in Iraq, when we could have Mexico!!

At any rate, thanks for the link. I'm going to check it out minus the sound.

c.a.b. said...

Haha! The mashed potatoes comment made me laugh. The way he delivers it slightly reminds me of Lewis Black (one of my favorites), but not quite as cool.

Yeah, I hear ya on the stereotyping thing; that's when I get peeved!

Pete Bauer said...

I was in a convenience store once and a woman came up out of the blue and asked me "if one train is going west at five mph and another is heading east at 35 mph..."

I think its great you had a good conversation. We've become a nation of pansies, afraid to agree to disagree, afraid of ideas. Our nation was built upon a new idea... being free.

As for immigration... if you break the law of the land to enter the land, you pay the consequences. Period. Empowering the wrong behavior to fix a greater wrong (Mexico's inability to fix their own internal problems and stop massive corruption) is not the right approach, no matter how empathetic you are to their situation.

Miss you, Catherine! I still remember that short story you wrote about a girl being stirred awake because her mother was going into labor.

You're so talented.